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Stephenaug

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  • Hello Steve.

    I've just discovered the Pern Wiki pages, and now I'm curious -- is there is a reason that the CDs and songbooks are not included in the media list? There are pages about them, but no links to those pages.


    Cheers,

    🎶Tania  (www.opland-freeman.com/harperhall)
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    • Good afternoon. I will allow myself to answer, since it was I who dealt with categories.

      At one time, when I joined the wiki, the categories were in complete chaos. And now there is some inconsistency. In particular, the music category is more likely to include articles on ballads from works, but due to inconsistency, articles about real media publications also got there.

      This needs to be fixed, but I'm not ready for it yet.

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  • I haven't made any changes yet; but, I believe that the character Retallek on the 'List of characters in Dragonheart' here: https://pern.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Dragonheart

    is actually a Hold rather than a character - based on the text in the book where it says this:

    Before Fiona could ask the question, the Weyrwoman continued, “Yes, it was one of your father’s minor holds.” “It must have been Retallek,” Fiona decided. “Father was going to replace the holder there as soon as the weather turned good enough to ride.”

    To my way of thinking, if Fiona was referring to Retallek as the holder, she would have said, "Father was going to replace him ……". And, if holds were named after holders, it wouldn't make any sense to replace a holder from a hold that was named after him. Since this is the only place that the name appears in the book, there is no other reference.

    So, what do you think?

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  • Hi Steve, You might have noticed that I having been doing quite a bit of editing lately on the Pern boards. Since I am very new to the editing, I would very much like to know your thoughts about whether or not I should be allowed to delete names from character lists. First, I should note that I am able to determine which characters don't belong on a list because I do my edits based on what I find in my Kindle for PC - based on the US Pern versions. And, before I determine that a name doesn't belong, I try to find that person in a book with a similar timeline (i.e. Dragonsdawn/Chronicles of Pern, Dragonsblood/Dragonheart, Moreta/Nerilka, etc.). So, would you prefer that I contact you about names that I feel should be removed, or would it be OK for me to do it myself? Kaye

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    • My version of the book with this cover: File:Dragonsdawn_1989_UK.jpg.

      Something like this.

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    • Yes, that's exactly what I was looking for. Since I didn't originally see Dragonsdawn on amazon.co.uk, I purchased this 'On Dragonwings' version

      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dragonwings-Pern-Dragons-Anne-McCaffrey/dp/0345465652/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=On+dragonwings&qid=1584820574&sr=8-2

      but, today, I see that there is a 1990 Dragonsdawn version on amazon.co.uk with a similar cover to your 1989 reference

      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Dragonsdawn-Dragon-McCaffrey-January-Paperback/dp/B015X35UT4/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=Dragonsdawn&qid=1584820508&sr=8-2

      If I see that the 'On Dragonswings' versions are not the complete British versions, I think I'll purchase that 1990 Dragonsdawn.

      As to your link to the Dragonsdawn on amazon.com, I'm thinking that since that is the 1991 version, that is very likely the American version. Luckily for me, I don't want that version - because it is currently unavailable.

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  • Hello!

    I'm ready to show you the design of the new Main Page - http://ru.testvoron.wikia.com ! In the near future, I will transfer it from the test wiki to here.

    The design in three colors - the main green, additional - red and gold (as in the logo).

    Unfortunately, I can not completely finish the work on the test wiki. Just imagine that:

    • in the Navigation section besides of links will be icons,
    • in the Random book section - with each page update there will be a new book (allows you to get rid of the huge list of books in the current version of the Main Page, at least partially retaining the functionality - access to any book of the series (if it falls out, ha-ha))
    • there will not be any redlinks, so the red text will not be confused with a nonexistent links.

    And I changed the background. This image is better (without garbage), well illustrate the meaning of the franchise - "rider on a dragon" and depicts many of people favorite characters - Ruth and Jaxom.

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    • It think it's really well done! It will be very clean.  The only suggestion is to maybe move the background up a little.  When I view with a smaller window size, I can only get a little bit of the images.  But nothing other than that - do it! 

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    • Okay, I tried to adapt the background. So it seems to me better?

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    • OK.  it looks good from different window sizes now.  Make the change!

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  • Hello!

    Why did you need to delete the category? It is actively used and still meets the categorization parameters.

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    • Wow, that was a mistake.  I don't know how that happened as I was just browsing up and down the category tree structure.  Never intended to delete. I remember stopping on Weyrleader because it looked like the Weyrleader category had Weyrleader as a category, but it was the Weyrleader article instead.  No excuse on my part.  Thanks for catching it.

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    • Well, good. I thought it was a mistake :)

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  • Do you have any objections to me using the Wikki Background on another non-profit website? I can send you a link to it but I won't have the page that I'd like to use the background on ready for a while.

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  • And, finally, about of Craft. The total chaos in these articles (their design, categories and lack of many) stops me from modernizing the Main Page - it's unclear where and what links to make. >_<

    The main question is whether it is worth dividing the articles into two types

    1. Article about craft (Beastcraft/Farmercraft/Harpercraft - category only Craft)
    2. Article about the place (Harper Hall/Healer Hall/Smithcrafthall category only Hall included in the categorys of Craft and Place)

    Or do one general article about of Craft, included in the categorys of Craft and Place.

    The second question is whether to keep separate articles about professions (Healer, Dolphiner, etc.) or include them in the description of the Craft. The fact is that some types of crafts and professions are of the same name and / or they can not be described quite completely separately from each other (for example - runners, traders, bakers).

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    • My opinion is that Crafts and Locations should be seperate. Each article on a craft should stick to what the craft is and what it does, and then a list of the known crafters. Then there should be seperate articles for each craft-hall which details where it is, its history and features, and then any prominent residents.

      Each entity would only have to have one main category - "Craft" for the articles on Crafts and "Crafthall" for the articles on Crafthalls.  You would also enter the crafthall's location as a category, but I can't think of another category to add to the Crafts (well, maybe "Original" and "Post-AIVAS" distinction)

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  • Hello!

    I tried and finished the work on the Weyrs to finally start thinking about the structure of the Craft. However, in the process, I suddenly became involved in Geography of Pern. Can you see and evaluate the new look of the list? In the description of the previous one, it was said about the possibility of grouping the list by location and I realized it, as I saw it.

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    • I think that it might be a good idea to have only one article that has two different tables - one for display by geographical area (northern, southerm etc) and the other by type (river, lake, etc).

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    • Well, a good option, I know how implement this.

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  • Hello.

    In connection with the change in the appearance of the navigation menu, I see that it is necessary to change the logo: the red color does not look good on the green field and the text logo duplicates the name of the wiki on the right.

    I made some sketches. You can choose one or more and I will work through this option more carefully. If possible - describe why this or that sketch is selected. I will clarify just one thing - the red circle on the logo is added for the visual volume, symbolizes the Red Star and supports the red color of the headings on the Main Page.

    1. http://imgdepo.com/id/10757201.jpg
    2. http://imgdepo.com/id/10757202.jpg
    3. http://imgdepo.com/id/10757203.jpg
    4. http://imgdepo.com/id/10757204.jpg
    5. http://imgdepo.com/id/10757205.jpg
    6. http://imgdepo.com/id/10757206.jpg
    7. http://imgdepo.com/id/10757207.jpg
    8. http://imgdepo.com/id/10757208.jpg
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    • The fourth level of the menu is now forbidden to be added by the Fandom rules (any modification of the menu is prohibited by means of CSS or JS).

      I live in the Moscow region, we have 11 am :)

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    • Menu looks good!  

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  • Congratulations to enable Message Wal and Comments Pages at the same time!

    To be mainstream :)

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    • Some communities have had very strong feelings about the Message Walls and Comments.  I have not made the change for several reasons. The main reason is that you apparently lose direct access to all the former Talk Page content.  

      Lets see how this works.

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