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  • I would like to make a big edit to the Monaco Bay Weyr page, and to Mirrim's page, but I would like your thoughts first, just in case I am missing something. According to the Monaco Bay page, the Weyrleaders are "T'gellan and bronze Monarth; Weyrwoman Talina and gold Arwith". And on Mirrim's page it says, "She was on good terms with the Weyrwoman Talina and showed no jealousy or other problem with her weyrmate's regular sexual contact with Talina during mating flights." However, the only time Arwith is mentioned in any of the books in connection with Monaco Bay Weyr is when they were evacuating people after the Fireball Flood. And, according to the Dragonriders Guide to Pern T'gellan and Mirrim are the listed weyrleaders. So, is there anything that I have missed?

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    • Mirrim really isn't a Weyrwoman, as she is the rider of the green dragon. But Mirrim is the wife of Tgellan and deals with the affairs of the weyr, like a Weyrwoman, since she has sufficient experience and grasp in this. It's just that usually the Leader and Mistress become husband and wife

      But the title of Weyrwoman does not follow from the fact that the woman-rider is the wife of the Wingleader. Rather, on the contrary, a man becomes a Wingleader due to the choice of the Weyrwoman. And the Weyrwoman can only be the rider of the golden dragon, since only golden dragons can continue the dragon kind. In the end, even the Headwoman of the lower caves can handle Weyr's household chores.

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    • Since I would like to remove "Weyrwoman Talina and gold Arwith" as weyrleader - because I can find nothing which specifically links her as weyrleader - I have two choices. I can 1) replace Talina and Arwith with "weyrmate Mirrim and green Path"(as it is in Dragonlovers Guide to Pern) or 2) leave that space blank. Which would you prefer?

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    • I thought you might be interested to know that I discovered the following in The Dragonlovers Guide to Pern (second edition), page 205, "Eastern Weyr is administered by Weyrleader T'gellan and bronze Monarth, and his weyrmate Mirrim and green Path. Neither Talina nor Arwith are listed in either the list of Dragons or the list of Dragonriders in the Dragonlover's Guide to Pern. I did find Talina in the Complete Cast in Dragonlovers, page 232, but it says only this "queenrider Benden Weyr". And, I also discovered that Talina and Arwith were added to the Monaco Bay Weyr page on January 3, 2012 by AMCAlmaron.

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    • The Skies of Pern

      Core Hold—two days before Council Meeting—2.26.31

      T’gellan, with Mirrim and Talina, came up the steps now and Lessa thought Monaco’s Weyrleader was much too thin, his eyes haunted. He had been working all the hours of the day to rebuild his Weyr. For that matter, neither Mirrim nor Talina looked much better, but they didn’t look as gaunt as the bronze rider: they didn’t have the full responsibility that a Weyrleader shouldered.

      Council Meeting at Telgar Hold—3.1.31

      To Lessa’s surprised gratification, fifteen minutes later the entire Council was in their spaces around the U-shaped table in Telgar’s vaulted Hall. <...> Nadira and Talina rarely attended.

      In both episodes, it is implied that Talina is the Weyrwoman. In the first case, she arrives with Tgellan for the meeting. In the second case, it is also about the meeting of the leaders and it is noted that Talana and Nadira are in an equal status.

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  • I have just noticed that while the "The Survey: P.E.R.N." is the actual title of the story in "The Chronicles of Pern" book, as can be seen here

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Pern:_First_Fall

    it is titled "The P.E.R.N. Survey" here

    https://pern.fandom.com/wiki/The_P.E.R.N._Survey

    Is there a particular reason for this discrepancy?

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    • I totally agree that it would be best to leave the title of the article - because, since it is a matter of the same words being in a different order, many people probably won't notice.

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    • I have no problem with keeping the current article name and maybe creating a redirect for the other one.

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  • Yes, it is necessary. And make this article a disambiguation page. Immediately check all the links that lead here and correct them to the correct ones.

    (Could not respond on page due to "session capture" system error)

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  • Is also another character that appears in this list

    https://pern.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_The_Chronicles_of_Pern:_First_Fall

    but is not found in either Chronicles of Pern or Dragonsdawn

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  • Is also another character that appears in this list

    https://pern.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_The_Chronicles_of_Pern:_First_Fall

    but is not found in either Chronicles of Pern or Dragonsdawn

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  • Mila Larr is another character who is listed here

    https://pern.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_The_Chronicles_of_Pern:_First_Fall

    but is not found in either Chronicles of Pern or Dragonsdawn.

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  • Unless there is more than one version of "Chronicles of Pern: First Fall", Carlos Minzentes should be removed from the 'Ford of Red Hanrahan' list here https://pern.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_The_Chronicles_of_Pern:_First_Fall

    because, when I searched both Chronicles of Pern and Dragonsdawn, I didn't find either a Carlos or a Carl or a Minzentes or a Mizentes or a Minzentez or a Mizentez or a Minsentes or a Misentes or Minsentez or a Misentez listed in either of them.

    I am letting you know because I'm assuming that you would prefer that I not remove names myself.

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  • You will see that I selected UNDO twice on Alessan's page. That happened because, when I was attempting to undo one of my own edits, I mistakenly selected Alessan's page, instead of the page I had previously edited. So, my second undo should have effectively erased the effect of my first undo.

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  • Are you aware that there are links here

    https://pern.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Character_Lists

    to both a "List of characters in Dragon Harper" and a "List of characters in Dragonharper"?

    The "List of characters in Dragon Harper"

    https://pern.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Dragon_Harper

    appears to be correct.

    But, the "List of characters in Dragonharper"

    https://pern.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Dragonharper

    is wrong in so many ways that the entire page should be deleted IMHO.  The majority of the names on that page appear in RED because articles do not exist for those names.  For the names on the page that appear in GREEN, those names are for characters who don't actually appear in Dragon Harper (which I just finished reading).

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    • Yes, I later saw that you added this paragraph. About of information - on the wiki there is so little information and a lot of stubs, if you see something bad, try to fix it, and not delete it. At the moment, it’s better bad than nothing :)

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    • The dragon in List of characters in Dragonsblood was misspelled; it was referring to Piyeth, who also appears in Dragonheart. I've corrected it on the list.

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  • Hi Shambala108!

    Back in 2013 when I was really active here on this Wiki, I created a facebook page (Pern Wiki FB Page) but never really did anything with it.  I was wondering if you had any interest in taking it over?

    Let me know if you have any interest.  Thanks

    Steve (talk) 22:19, January 7, 2020 (UTC)

    And btw, it's apparent that I left this Wiki in very good hands.  You've done a great job!

    I'll be stopping by now and then to fix some of the pages that need cleaning up.

    Thanks again!

    Steve (talk)

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