I would like to make a big edit to the Monaco Bay Weyr page, and to Mirrim's page, but I would like your thoughts first, just in case I am missing something. According to the Monaco Bay page, the Weyrleaders are "T'gellan and bronze Monarth; Weyrwoman Talina and gold Arwith". And on Mirrim's page it says, "She was on good terms with the Weyrwoman Talina and showed no jealousy or other problem with her weyrmate's regular sexual contact with Talina during mating flights." However, the only time Arwith is mentioned in any of the books in connection with Monaco Bay Weyr is when they were evacuating people after the Fireball Flood. And, according to the Dragonriders Guide to Pern T'gellan and Mirrim are the listed weyrleaders. So, is there anything that I have missed?
Mirrim really isn't a Weyrwoman, as she is the rider of the green dragon. But Mirrim is the wife of Tgellan and deals with the affairs of the weyr, like a Weyrwoman, since she has sufficient experience and grasp in this. It's just that usually the Leader and Mistress become husband and wife
But the title of Weyrwoman does not follow from the fact that the woman-rider is the wife of the Wingleader. Rather, on the contrary, a man becomes a Wingleader due to the choice of the Weyrwoman. And the Weyrwoman can only be the rider of the golden dragon, since only golden dragons can continue the dragon kind. In the end, even the Headwoman of the lower caves can handle Weyr's household chores.
Since I would like to remove "Weyrwoman Talina and gold Arwith" as weyrleader - because I can find nothing which specifically links her as weyrleader - I have two choices. I can 1) replace Talina and Arwith with "weyrmate Mirrim and green Path"(as it is in Dragonlovers Guide to Pern) or 2) leave that space blank. Which would you prefer?
I thought you might be interested to know that I discovered the following in The Dragonlovers Guide to Pern (second edition), page 205, "Eastern Weyr is administered by Weyrleader T'gellan and bronze Monarth, and his weyrmate Mirrim and green Path. Neither Talina nor Arwith are listed in either the list of Dragons or the list of
Dragonriders in the Dragonlover's Guide to Pern. I did find Talina in the Complete Cast in Dragonlovers, page 232, but it says only this "queenrider Benden Weyr". And, I also discovered that Talina and Arwith were added to the Monaco Bay Weyr page on January 3, 2012 by AMCAlmaron.
T’gellan, with Mirrim and Talina, came up the steps now and Lessa thought Monaco’s Weyrleader was much too thin, his eyes haunted. He had been working all the hours of the day to rebuild his Weyr. For that matter, neither Mirrim nor Talina looked much better, but they didn’t look as gaunt as the bronze rider: they didn’t have the full responsibility that a Weyrleader shouldered.
Council Meeting at Telgar Hold—3.1.31
To Lessa’s surprised gratification, fifteen minutes later the entire Council was in their spaces around the U-shaped table in Telgar’s vaulted Hall. <...> Nadira and Talina rarely attended.
In both episodes, it is implied that Talina is the Weyrwoman. In the first case, she arrives with Tgellan for the meeting. In the second case, it is also about the meeting of the leaders and it is noted that Talana and Nadira are in an equal status.
It seems that in this case the writing in the American and British editions is different. I don’t have the books themselves, but I found a British publication with text in Google books: https://i.paste.pics/95GL6.png here the name is "The P.E.R.N. Survey"
And the American edition found on Amazon has the name "The Survey: P.E.R.N."
Perhaps the difference is not in the place of publication, but in the age of the books. British is newer, American is old. Shambala108, what year was your book published?
Then I am in difficulty. I consider it correct to indicate the latest version of the stories title (since there should have been reasons for changing the title over time). But the use of the American title format is also a priority.
Let's leave the title of the article as it is now and indicate the second title version in the description, since changing the name of the article is associated with great difficulties with not a high level of reliability of the information.
because, when I searched both Chronicles of Pern and Dragonsdawn, I didn't find either a Carlos or a Carl or a Minzentes or a Mizentes or a Minzentez or a Mizentez or a Minsentes or a Misentes or Minsentez or a Misentez listed in either of them.
I am letting you know because I'm assuming that you would prefer that I not remove names myself.
You will see that I selected UNDO twice on Alessan's page. That happened because, when I was attempting to undo one of my own edits, I mistakenly selected Alessan's page, instead of the page I had previously edited. So, my second undo should have effectively erased the effect of my first undo.
is wrong in so many ways that the entire page should be deleted IMHO.The majority of the names on that page appear in RED because articles do not exist for those names.For the names on the page that appear in GREEN, those names are for characters who don't actually appear in Dragon Harper (which I just finished reading).
When I sent the message above to Shambala 108, the opening paragraph was not there. As a matter of fact, I added that opening paragraph after I messaged Shambala 108.
As to the other information that I have deleted from some of the characters and you have put back in place, I deleted those sections because the comments were quite confusing and the grammar was poor. In the future, instead of deleting comments, I will simply attempt to make those comments less confusing.
As to the name Pliath, which I removed from the "List of characters in Dragonblood" and you put back in the list - I have searched the text of Dragonblood and do not find any mention of anyone named Pliath.
Yes, I later saw that you added this paragraph. About of information - on the wiki there is so little information and a lot of stubs, if you see something bad, try to fix it, and not delete it. At the moment, it’s better bad than nothing :)