Наталья, добрый день. Есть мысли по оцифровке и создании интерактивной карты Перна (наподобие гугл мапс). Есть некоторые вопросы, идеи и тд. Как правильней все это оформить в сообществе (завести страницу или как)?
Странно, что вы написали мне об этом здесь, когда есть и русская вики :) если хотите делать на русском - вам лучше создать тему в группе Вконтакте (ссылка есть на заглавной на русской вики), а если интернационалтную (то бишь английскую), то можете в обсуждениях на этой вики - ссылка в навигационном меню.
Everything seems to be fine. Unless it was necessary to remove the dragon in front of the name of the dragon. Moreover, you did not do it everywhere. I know that it is in this book that there are no fire lizard, but it is included in the group of books where they exist and the characters indicate not only the dragon, but also the fire lizard, so you need to maintain the same list structure.
I thought about leaving the word dragon in front of the name when there was nothing else on that entry. But, on the Second Interval/Third Pass character lists and the Red Star Rising/Dragoneye character list, when there is nothing else on the entry, dragons are listed simply with color and dragon name, without using the word dragon. So, I thought I would keep it consistent with those character lists.
The characters of the second interval / third pass, in theory, should have a connection with the dragon, since some characters have a connection with the watch whers and even fire lizards (Lorana, for example)
The tradition of marking articles for deletion came from Wikipedia, where deleting any article is a complicated procedure, considered by many users. This procedure is not relevant for small wikis with a small community. You can simply write to any administrator that the article should be deleted and the reasons for the removal. It will be much faster.
That happens to all of us at one time or another ;-p. But, I've just discovered a misspelling in a book that has apparently not been noted previously. Nerra's brother Fenril is named correctly in Dragongirl and Sky Dragons, but is named as Fenric in Dragonheart - “And that fool Fenric locked himself in his hold until Nerra recovered enough to throw him out.”
By the way, if the character has different spellings, mistakes in the name, and so on in different books, then all options can and should be indicated in the article. The reader may try to find the character by the wrong name. Redirection will help in the wiki, but for a global search, it is better to specify all the parameters in the text directly in the preamble, which is shown in the preview of the link in the search:
Fenril (also mentioned as Fenric) was Lord Holder for Crom Hold in the Second Interval.
There are many mistakes in different books of the series. Mistakes can also be on character lists. I also know for sure one case when the error was in the list of characters in the DLG - the Dalova's dragon in the book - Perforth, and in the guide - Allaneth.
Seek a compromise. Despite the name of dragon, the rider has only one dragon. The rest of the wrong name may be redirected or indicated in the text of the article.
Could someone please point me to the dragondex - because I'd like to compare it to the list of dragons in The Dragonlover's Guide to Pern Volume 2, where Trebith is actually listed as Trebeth, as in People of Pern for Dragonflight:
Thanks for the update about Dragondex. I asked the question about the Dragondex only because of your comment above, in which you said, "Trebeth" is only in the Dragondex." So, Dragondex is the same as 'The People of Pern' listing at the end of various novels, right? And, it turns out that Trebith is listed only in "Dragonquest". So, you were correct to ask that the Trebith page be deleted.
If the DLG you are referring to is The Dragonlovers Guide to Pern, dragons and their riders are listed only in Volume 2 (copyright 1997), and D'WER is on page 243.
As to your comment about 'The People of Pern', I only know what I see in the Kindle versions; and, in those versions, D'wer is listed in 'The People of Pern' in "Dragonquest", "Dragonflight" and "The White Dragon".
is actually a Hold rather than a holder - based on the text in the book where it says this:
Before Fiona could ask the question, the Weyrwoman continued, “Yes, it was one of your father’s minor holds.” “It must have been Retallek,” Fiona decided. “Father was going to replace the holder there as soon as the weather turned good enough to ride.”
To my way of thinking, if Fiona was referring to Retallek as the holder, she would have said, "Father was going to replace him ……". And, if holds were named after holders, it wouldn't make any sense to replace a holder from a hold that was named after him.
Since this is the only place that the name appears in the book, there is no other reference.
Hi there! I'm impressed by the amount and quality of the content that's being added to the Pern Wiki. Great job!
I was coerced into helping out over at the Midsomer Murders Wiki and ended up adopting it so that I could make big changes. I think it looks much better now. It was mostly me and one other person who did all the work.
I'm a little jealous that you have some really good editors here that keep your content going. I wish I had a bunch of dedicated editors at the Midsomer Murders Wiki who I could rely on and maybe promote up to Bureaucrat, but I only get really spotty contributions and I think that there is still so much more that can be added. I've created a Facebook Page to try and get some additional interest going, but nothing much has come of that.
I'm still hoping that The Dragonriders of Pern will be made into a movie or series. I haven't heard anything new for awhile.
I, too, have only recently been following activity and rejoice that the active users are good editors ans do not need to correct every edit :)
Recently, I only regret that because of the new status on Fandom and new work in real life I can not find enough time to finish articles on books. This really bothers me, since I do not like to leave unfinished work. I think, after your message, my conscience will torment me completely and I will finish :)
Hi! I just recently read Moreta: Dragonlady of Pern (honestly cried in the end) and I really love K'lon and his character and relationship to A'murry (who wasn't showed as much as I'd wanted to). I started reading this wikia more now and read the mating flight page. I just started thinking, that the green riders I've encountered are male, like A'murry. I got it that way that the greens' mating flight is the same as golds', of course not as big and dramatic and the greens are infertile, of course, but for example the telephatic connection is as strong and the sexual contact is the same, I think? Would that mean that also the male riders would have a sexual connection if for example a brown is flying a green? I'll be very glad if you answer, thank you! :)
Yes. The green dragonriders are predisposed to homosexual intercourse. Anne made no secret of this, but did not focus on this attention as a whole. It is just a fact of their life (perhaps, it turned out by chance, since the series was not originally planned for such a large scale and the question of the green male dragonriders was not thought out).
However, Anne also noted that it is not necessary for the dragonriders of dragons in mating flight to sleep together. Sexual attraction is strong only in gold and bronze pairs. During the mating flight of the green dragons, all dragonriders control themselves better and are quite capable before starting the flight to find a sesual partner for themselves, including women, for example, from the lower caves.
In the very first book Dragonflight, you may notice that one of the key characters, Lytol, is called the former green rider, but in general the green riders do not appear in the book. Already in the second book about Lytol it is said that he is a brown horseman. There is an opinion that the gender (and rank) of the dragon was changed and advance so that it more corresponded to the importance of Lytol and did not conflict with the fact that he had a wife and children.
The theme of the inclination of the green (and blue) riders to homosexuality also rises in the story The Second Weyr. This story refers to the time of the first pass and it must be read after the novel Dragonsdawn.