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As the Third Pass approached, Masterharper Murenny and Master Harper Zist worried about the Holdless problem with the imminent approach of Thread. They were afraid that the Holdless and Shunned would resort to desperate means to gain shelter against Thread.
When Thella of Telgar Hold was denied the title of Lady Holder after her father's death, she left the hold and acquired a band of Holdless, who stole what they needed to set up their own shelter. Thella called herself "Lady Holdless".
Many Holdless were housed in the caves of Igen.